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| Thread title | Replies | Last modified |
|---|---|---|
| Should we be a news resource? | 0 | 00:46, 8 May 2013 |
| Content structure | 0 | 22:52, 4 May 2013 |
| Main Page talk should not be for wiki issues | 0 | 20:07, 22 April 2013 |
| Fiction/Real-world crossover content | 0 | 02:05, 9 January 2013 |
| How to add news item? | 2 | 23:43, 8 January 2013 |
| Wiki scope | 4 | 03:04, 6 June 2012 |
| The Random Page Button | 0 | 03:37, 9 May 2012 |
| Now celebrating X articles | 0 | 15:23, 6 May 2012 |
| Articles | 0 | 22:35, 26 April 2012 |
| Guides policy and style guide | 0 | 03:43, 24 April 2012 |
| Move the main page? | 6 | 15:54, 22 April 2012 |
| Add a link to DCPUWorld? | 0 | 16:08, 14 April 2012 |
| Questions for Notch | 4 | 14:06, 14 April 2012 |
| Join forces with 0x10cwiki.org | 8 | 19:37, 11 April 2012 |
| Can you add the german forum? | 3 | 10:14, 9 April 2012 |
The wiki main page talk should remain with regards to that specific page and things to be done with it.
For controversy of the wiki, that is the purpose of the Community portal. Extreme 20:06, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
I was wondering why the DCPU seemed so limited in power, and whether this was realistic for space-rated computers of the era. So I wrote a small article about space computers in my sandbox. Should an article like this be included, or no? (The un-cited portions are my own speculations, and may need cleaning up.
I noticed on Twitter that an artist has been hired for 0x10c. (https://twitter.com/notch/status/251710219133005825) This seems newsworthy, but I don't know how to add it to the news feed - can anyone help?
There have been a lot of pages created about very general ideas in assembly language programming and embedded systems terminology, and yet that material is covered in far more detail and easily searchable on the internet at large. Do we really need those types of articles? It seems like a 0x10c wiki should focus on the game and how its features differ from the other things out there, rather than copying things explained better elsewhere.
In particular, it seems bizarre to think that this sort of wiki could serve as any sort of useful guide to the programming techniques involved-- and yet those pages are now proliferating. Why?
Those types of guides have good and bad points, but more bad, in my opinion. I like the idea of briefly explaining concepts, but these articles tend to be the opposite. People probably just want to add pages now for the fun of it and as there's no concrete information about the game, other than the CPU, that's all they're adding.
Giving basic examples in a guide with external links to in depth websites could be a possibility. It documents the game, but not the complexities of assembly (which I agree we shouldn't be doing). Articles like Recursion seem completely unnecessary to me, for the reasons you stated.
Although I see reason for lots of documentation on the DCPU-16, such as the hardware pages and info on it's instructions, I agree we don't need pages on general programming/hardware concepts. Something like Recursion shouldn't be on this wiki.
I think I could agree with that if this game was only for programmers. However, I see here a great opportunity to introduce masses of new people to the world of assembly programming. Many players may even be learning how to program for the first time. For the sake of these players, I think it's a good thing to have articles about basic programming concepts.
Granted, it may be best to put them in the guides and tutorials section, but I still think that we should have them. I wouldn't want someone to be intimidated by the prospect of having to 1) search and comb through results in an external search engine for every concept and 2) translate other languages into DCPU assembly. (Remember, we're talking about newbies here.) I think it would be a much gentler learning curve if we had such articles here, with examples in DCPU ASM, and embedded cross-references to other DCPU articles.
PS: In more general terms, I want to cultivate an environment where players guide and help each other out. The articles are just a small part of this vision I have.
Actually, you raise a very good point there. I hadn't really thought about that as much, but we are talking about a game, not CPU simulation software designed for programmers... :P It should definitely be organized into some kind of General Programming, General Assembly, or similar category though. Keeping other aspects of the game, the DCPU-16 specific pages (for example, info on it's interrupt system), and general programming separate is important to keep all the information easily accessible.
When one clicks the random page button, there is a chance, despite having one's language set to English, (or any other language,) that pages not in that language will appear. This is quite annoying, and becomes even more so when more translated pages become available, (as in the case of the Minecraft wiki.) It seems technically possible, so random page results should be in only one's selected language.
You may have noticed I added "Now celebrating 64 articles!". I bet you're wondering what's significant about 64. It's a power of 2. I'll update it when we reach 128, 256, 512, and so on.
I have seen articles writen by users such as this. maybe we can have a section where people can write articles weekly, monthly, or when ever possible. It can also be used for news articles written by 0x10c wiki about new updates, new features, or what-not.
I have created a rough draft for the style guide and the policy concerning guides. Feel free to add comments on the talk pages or to make direct alterations on the drafts. The sooner we get something like this in place, the better.
Since the main page is not an article, it shouldn't be in the article (main) namespace. Nitpicky me would prefer if it was moved to something like Project:Main Page.
That's not how Mediawikis are structured.
The mediawiki manual explains how to change which page is shown by default, but best practice and principle of least-surprise indicates we should follow the lead of other mediawikis, such as Wikipedia (and that manual).
Direct citations with ref won't work unless we add a references block to the talk page, which is a bit much.
What Wikipedians do isn't necessarily the best practice. Their userbase in notoriously divided and there is always a loud opposition (be it minority or majority) to any suggestion of change. And of course, most people remain ignorant/apathetic to the proposal. Here is an archive of previous discussions of the issue. In my opinion most of the reasons for opposing used there are not valid in our case.
Very well. It's not my wiki; ask the Enjin people what they want to do with it. While Main Page is the standard and recommended practice for mediawiki, I support that way of doing it and have very little interest in changing things as it doesn't seem to matter.
So, thank you; I'm not longer ignorant of the proposal, though I'm still confused as to why anyone cares. That would leave me in the 'apathetic' category, but I have no strong objections to it either. Good luck with your agenda there.
Hi. I run DCPUWorld.com, a site where I'm trying to aggregate and post news about DCPU-16 (and a lesser extent general news about 0x10c). I was curious if it would be appropriate to link in the Community template?
The site provides a "breaking news" aspect which isn't easily conveyed on wikis or forums.
Since it is pre-alpha we should include a section of "users-must-have & questions-to-notch". So the community can somewhat influence the development - this would be in the spirit of notch I think. See my article on that "Questions to Notch..."
Disagree. The wiki should ultimately be a resource for users for help when playing the game (a living game manual, so to speak). Asking Notch questions is good and healthy behavior - I just don't believe it's appropriate for the wiki.
I'm not going to take any action at the moment, though - that's just how I feel.
Well I agree that development questionss/suggestions should not be a main purpose of this wiki. Nevertheless, up to now I see no argument, why these questions/suggestions should not have a kind of place in this wiki.
In my opinion main purpose of this wiki is: to track and document the "state" of 0x10^c in development. Just because it is "in development" a questions/suggestions section would be cool for the following reasons: the community could join creative forces to fully exploit development possibilities and track what the community would like to have implemented.
But that's not what's going to happen. The Wiki won't be representative of the community. It'll be an edit war where everyone tries to get his idea in first.
This is why we should focus on facts. One person's speculation isn't better than another's, but one can not reasonably argue against facts by the simple virtue of their truth.
There are currently 2 wikis for 0x10c: 0x10cwiki.org (0x10cwiki.com) and wiki0x10c.com (0x10cwiki.net, wiki0x10c.net). Both wikis are actively maintained. I propose that both wikis join forces to create a super wiki.
I really like the look of wiki0x10c.com, but I think there is also a lot of very good information on 0x10cwiki.org like a dcpu tutorial. When these wikis join there could be one 'uberwiki'.
Writing things twice is useless.
Let me know what you think Qurben 11:29, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
We are already in talks with the other wikis to merge them all over to here, You will know when it happens :)
So if i'm understanding you correctly, this MediaWiki instance will be the permanent one, with content from the others imported here? What will be done with the account database from the other wikis? And what will be the permanent URL?
Yes It's also worth noting that, because of the similar naming convention to Minecraftwiki, the owner of 0x10cwiki.org is trying to sell the domain to Curse Network since they grabbed it first. But yes, this seems like the more active and successful wiki(despite really dynamic changes in the GUI).
Hi, can you add the german community forum to the main page? it is http://www.0x10c-forum.de it's the first and biggest german community forums so far. thanks.
Done Modified Template:Community which is displayed on the main page. Should be there now!
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